Well played, I didn't see the replies since my forum experience looks like this, but I'm sure the butthurt was very real. It usually is from people who post here for 14 hours a day.



Also this, new players join game, die ad-nauseum to high sec gankers and quit. I don't blame them tbh, they're cannon fodder even in high sec and they realise it and leave.

No, you're just a stupid piece of **** who's mad because it takes a little bit more effort than in the past to gank someone, even though its still incredibly easy. Like every other elitist **** on these forums, you don't know how to have fun when your not ruining someone else's day.

The hauler has to take into account all manner of logistics and how many assholes he may or may not encounter. The burden is placed almost entirely on him. The ganker is free to do as he pleases, with little to no consequence.

CCP abandon there strength and the want to trust there income so the made some radical change.

Player base is stable for now but only half the power the had. The will never get as many people before the drop.
Now the even made it more change. SP buying / ISK buying. So what`s the point of subscribe again? If you can wait out if there is a new ship sell your SP and buy new SP and invest in SP for that ship? There is no need to play just buy a plex and your done. No ship lost no danger. No risk. This is what eve is become.

And we are still going deeper in that hole. But atleast the numbers are stable. If the just invest in a diffrend area than this game can become more than just a click from a to b and press f1 to play game!.

[quote=Yun Kuai]In my own personal opinion, I feel there are 4 main reaons why the player count is no longer at the 45k average and peaking in the 60k numbers about 5 years ago.

1) The biggest problem area is that in my almost 8 of years of playing, the game's core mechanics (read pve) are almost exactly the same as when I started. That means 8 years of grinding the same anoms, the same missions, the same mining, the same industry, the same incursions, etc.


I strongly agree with his first point. Save burner missions little has been done for pve in a long time. No matter how much you love the game, you can only grind the same anoms, missions for so long.

Today I learned missions are the only PvE content out there. I'm virtually never in HS, and haven't done PvP in months. That being said, thank you for your kind words. The next time I feel like doing something in a sandbox, I will run it by you first to see if it is actually fun for me or not.

Even in your example B is hardly a good argument about A. Let's talk math:
F = X - Y

Here:
F - is growth of population
X - some 'positive' factors
Y - ganking

If X is bigger than Y then we have positive result.
If Y is bigger than X then we have negative result.

Now we can translate your posts to this system:
Post A: F gets lower because of Y.
Post B: in past F was positive and Y was bigger.

Is post A correct? Yes, the bigger gets Y the lower gets F if X does not change.
Is post B correct? Yes, for any value of Y we can find X so F will be bigger than currently.
Does post B counters A? Nope. As long as X is staying outside of formula we cannot connect any changes in values of Y and F.

So at the end i don't support "ganking kills Eve". And i don't support "Eve was growing when ganking was easier/more often/etc".
Former is just personal opinion. Latter is incorrect statistically.